Can NerdSeq do something like the "Accumulate" feature from the new Metropolix sequencer?
The idea is that it plays a note sequence, and one of the notes changes every time the sequence is played. For example, the pitch of the fourth note in the sequence could increase chromatically until it eventually resets. The other notes are unchanged.
I am thinking that it should be possible to use a combination of a table and FXs to do something similar in NerdSeq, but my table and FX skills are very limited. Can anybody help?
I don't know the "Accumulate" feature from the new Metropolix sequencer but what you describe seems to be fairly simple with the NerdSEQ by means of tables.
Here is how you do it:
- create a pattern with your sequence
- on step 4 (or whichever step you wish to vary) insert a table and in FX1 (or 2/3/4, doesn't matter) of that step insert SPFX 0011
- enter your newly created table. set SOURCE to PTN-SFX
- fill in the various transpositions for each round of your sequence. you have quite a few options here:
- a) have a fixed sequence of tranpositions
- b) set a bunch of allowed notes and cycle through these by means of >>> in the TP column
- c) insert RND in the TP column and set RANGE as suits you
HTH,
Michael
Hi Michael,
Thanks for the description. I have tried it, and it almost works. I set the Table to PTN-SFX, and use SPFX 0011 to advance it. The problem I have is that the transposition from the table continues to be active for the rest of the sequence as well. Is there a way to "disable" the table for the rest of the sequence?
(04-01-2021, 11:07 PM)mosorensen Wrote: [ -> ]Hi Michael,
Thanks for the description. I have tried it, and it almost works. I set the Table to PTN-SFX, and use SPFX 0011 to advance it. The problem I have is that the transposition from the table continues to be active for the rest of the sequence as well. Is there a way to "disable" the table for the rest of the sequence?
Hmm. When I tried it only the one note on the step with the table got changed. There have to be other settings active then.
As an afterthought:
I'm on V1.24 RC11. While I'm not aware of fixes in that area there may be differences. Thomas?
Update:
It may be a workaround to create another table like the one above on the first note that should not be transposed and leave the TP column empty, i.e. have essentially a table that does nothing. That should at least stop your transposition table. But as I said, that does not seem to be necessary in my system.
Kind regards,
Michael
The “math” FX of the upcoming firmware release may help you get close, but likely not all the way (especially after the 1.1 firmware’s additions.)
mgd: Definitely check out the Metropolix accumulation behaviour when you get a chance. Really cool stuff, and enabling loads of dynamism in even very short patterns.
Dynamism is something I'm after as you correctly inferred
I try to avoid Intellijel stuff. I usually find it way too expensive and not enough bang for the buck. But I will check out this accumulation behaviour. If only to get ideas how to improve NerdSEQ
Kind regards,
Michael
I just diagonally read the current Metropolix manual and especially the parts on accumulation. AFAICT the above sketched table does all you could possibly do with accumulation, possibly it is even more versatile.
If that's correct then it's more sensible to get a second NerdSEQ than to buy a Metropolix
(04-02-2021, 07:23 PM)mgd Wrote: [ -> ]AFAICT the above sketched table does all you could possibly do with accumulation, possibly it is even more versatile.
If that's correct then it's more sensible to get a second NerdSEQ than to buy a Metropolix
That sounds terrific. I am not planning to get a Metropolix, but I would like to do similar things on my NerdSeq.
Would you mind explaining more about how to do it with the "above skecthed table" (especially, if combined with ratcheting, where the note changes per ratchet, as described in the Metropolix manual)?
I will take a look at what the metropolix does. But also keep in mind, normally not planning to copy any other features from other sequencers. (Usually I don't even look onto what other ones do...too busy to focus on my own list, ideas etc.)
As for the table, i don't think there is something related to this fixed (assuming mosorensen uses the latest stable V1.23A).
What if you have one or multiple (chained) tables that have every first step transposed and every 2nd one not. So for the note you want to transpose you would put the SPFX and for the next note(eg the rest of the pattern) you add another one. So only that one note would be transposed then.
Thanks for all your help. I think I got it to work (I am on firmware 1.24 RC11).
In case anybody is interested, I place a table of type "> loop" and source "PTN-SPFX" at the step I want to transpose, and I put the FX "SPFX 011" at this step as well.
The FX command steps through the transpositions in the table, but the transpositions are active for the entire pattern, and the entire pattern is transposed, not just the step with the Table.
I found two ways to disable the transpose for the rest of the pattern. One is to put an "SPFX 011" at the following step as well, and set every second step of the table to "--". The other is to switch to another table, without any transposes, at the following step, and this empty table should also be set to "PTN-SPFX".
I cannot figure out the behavior with two different tables in the same pattern, with one set to source "PTN-SPFX" and the other set to "Int.Tick", but that's fine.
(04-03-2021, 04:24 AM)mosorensen Wrote: [ -> ]In case anybody is interested, I place a table of type "> loop" and source "PTN-SPFX" at the step I want to transpose, and I put the FX "SPFX 011" at this step as well.
I have set Type to "> RESYNC" and used RND for the transposition which may or may not be somewhat limited. The rest should be more or less identical but I haven't done more than some basic PoC type of testing. In that setup only one note was changed and it was different each time around.
As to your other question:
I basically was referring to setting source to "PTN-SPFX" and advancing the table via FX "SPFX 011". With the ability to chain tables and also that you can have complete phrases/patterns by means of tables alone, which allows for all sorts of dynamic variations. And I have not yet even looked at the new functionality regarding ADD etc. which clearly opens up a whole new set of possibilities.
I found looking at the preset tables quite instructive. It helped me understanding the potential of tables better (I'm sure there is stuff I'm not yet aware of...
)
Did I mention that I want tables for CV16 and Midi Tracks?
Kind regards,
Michael