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RE: More CV Expander? - XORadmin - 05-03-2020
(05-03-2020, 09:30 PM)Patate le mage Wrote: Thank you Thomas for your answer.
I eventually manage to obtain something very cool.
It was not obvious
Tell me if i'm wrong, but in 3CV+3env, the 3 CV are 1,2,3 and the 3 envelop are 4 5 6, and the tricky part is that the envelops are all three related to the envelop number 8 in the track setup ?
PS : i had from time to time some stuck notes using this method
Yes you have different types. One is multiple notes but 1 envelope (8) which is a quite common situation, think of a voice but one envelope and one filter.
The 3+3 is if you really have 3 the same 'voices' and be really full polyphonic and all trigger it's own envelope (also all envelope 8) on different outputs.
As for the hanging notes, i just got also one info from someone else that they are in some cases stuck notes. I am investigating this. It never happened to me, especially not with the latest version, and it was tested quite a lot.
RE: More CV Expander? - skybox - 05-10-2020
I'm sorry I missed the Q&A. I watched thru the video and had a couple questions:
In regards to envelopes, it looks like for right now, when you edit the envelope on a step in the pattern, it changes the envelope setting globally (each new step follows the new edit permanently). Will it be possible for an envelope to remember a setting on a per-step basis?
So I would set up, say, Env1 with a fast attack. This would be the "default" setting it would reset to when I insert Env1 on a new step in Patterns. Then in CV pattern, maybe for one step I would like Env1 to generate a slow attack. Will it be possible to do this without having to use a new Envelope (2-8) that already has a slow attack set up? It looks like for right now, the only way to do this is to alternate Env1 with Env2 thru Env8 with an different setting. This feels a little rigid to me and it would make each envelope that much more valuable/flexible.
The next question is for tables, sorry not CV specific: for table scaling, will it be possible to change to digits instead of note values? So semitone values (00, 01, etc) instead of C, C#, etc. This way the scale function doesn't ignore the base note? Then I could have table 1 be major scale, table 2 minor scale, and then all I need to do is put in the base note and table value in the Pattern screen?
RE: More CV Expander? - XORadmin - 05-11-2020
(05-10-2020, 07:47 PM)skybox Wrote: I'm sorry I missed the Q&A. I watched thru the video and had a couple questions:
Quote:In regards to envelopes, it looks like for right now, when you edit the envelope on a step in the pattern, it changes the envelope setting globally (each new step follows the new edit permanently). Will it be possible for an envelope to remember a setting on a per-step basis?
So I would set up, say, Env1 with a fast attack. This would be the "default" setting it would reset to when I insert Env1 on a new step in Patterns. Then in CV pattern, maybe for one step I would like Env1 to generate a slow attack. Will it be possible to do this without having to use a new Envelope (2-8) that already has a slow attack set up? It looks like for right now, the only way to do this is to alternate Env1 with Env2 thru Env8 with an different setting. This feels a little rigid to me and it would make each envelope that much more valuable/flexible.
I don't think that is possible. You can change ENV1 on the fly (through FX) , but then it gets also the new setting.
The Expander doesn't know anything about steps..not even about tracks. All the arrangement is done in the NerdSEQ and not the expander. The Expander on the other hand, gets the envelope type commands and runs it. That is then something the NerdSEQ doesn't know about. So it never knows when envelopes are finished (except for if they are told to stop).
So either switching between envelopes (and you can have them all on all different outputs started at different times on each output) or changing the parameters via FX would be your solution here. (Still not to bad compared to turn a knob if you want to change an envelope parameter...here it's either complete envelope change or change parameters).
Quote:The next question is for tables, sorry not CV specific: for table scaling, will it be possible to change to digits instead of note values? So semitone values (00, 01, etc) instead of C, C#, etc. This way the scale function doesn't ignore the base note? Then I could have table 1 be major scale, table 2 minor scale, and then all I need to do is put in the base note and table value in the Pattern screen?
Not sure what you mean here. 'Digits' is in the classic table transpose steps. There you set up a major/minor scale (or whatever transition) and it runs with the basenote.
Additionally you can choose now if it should also be scaled to the allowed notes (i forgot to mention in the video that yo ucan change the allowed notes also manually). All generated transpositions can be forced to match the allowed notes in different ways. So you can simply set up different tables which do or do not run with the basenote.
RE: More CV Expander? - skybox - 05-11-2020
This all make sense!
I'm not sure what I was thinking with the Digits/Notes scaling. I already know how to do that, I just got excited about the fancy scaling matrix on the right screen of the new table.
Thanks again! Just ordered my expander
RE: More CV Expander? - skybox - 05-23-2020
I finally got it all set up and I gotta say, I absolutely love it! The CV envelopes give me a much tighter control like I would expect from Envelope commands in other trackers.
I know that you can access Local CV 1-6 and Mod 1-6 in the expander pattern screen, but I was curious if there were any plans to implement more than just the current local track trigger. I know I can use FX to do this, but having all the information one on screen and not having to bounce between notes and FX page greatly improves workflow. I really enjoy having Note, Trigger, Note, Trigger, Note, Trigger so I can work three separate modules on one screen without having to flip around frequently. For now I am using spare AR envelopes as triggers but I know I would like to use those exCV for more complex functions in the near future.
RE: More CV Expander? - XORadmin - 05-23-2020
They are 2 trigger functions. One should be for the current track and the other checks if the column is set to a local 1..6 and then the trigger should automatically play on these, too!
So what you want should be possible.
RE: More CV Expander? - skybox - 05-23-2020
Ah, there it is! I was somehow scrolling right by it (TDX command). Once again, CV expander is absolutely killer. I've reworked my whole rig around it and love how it works.
RE: More CV Expander? - XORadmin - 07-13-2020
I just added an update for the CV16 Firmware which fixes a possible problem.
https://xor-electronics.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=790
RE: More CV Expander? - uniquepersonno2 - 08-01-2020
Hi! I just got my CV16 expander. I have a module that takes 16 CV inputs and was hoping to use this as a sequencer for it.
Is it possible to access all 16 CV outs on the expander from a patch? Is this a feature that will be added if not?
RE: More CV Expander? - XORadmin - 08-01-2020
(08-01-2020, 01:04 AM)uniquepersonno2 Wrote: Hi! I just got my CV16 expander. I have a module that takes 16 CV inputs and was hoping to use this as a sequencer for it.
Is it possible to access all 16 CV outs on the expander from a patch? Is this a feature that will be added if not?
You can use all 16 outputs when using 2 tracks or up to 9 output from one track.
Patches are planned but they have always the FX values in there, so per patch 8 notes at the same time would be possible+ 6 columns + 2 FX would bring 16 outputs at the same time.
I just guess where it would be needed to change 16 notes at the same time always from only one track.