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NERDSEQ and Bitbox MK2
#1
Hi,

I just ordered a Bitbox MK2 and a NERDSEQ MIDI I/O.  I’m looking forward to it.  I’m hoping to sequence some sliced breakbeats for some old school, atmospheric drum and bass and asian underground vibes, amongst other things.  Do any of you have a Bitbox and any general advice for setup?  

For instance, do you use MIDI out from the MIDI I/O into the Bitbox, and is there a particular 5 pin Din to 3.5 TRS cable I need (I’ve read there are a couple of cables, with the TRS wired differently)?  Or do you use the NERDSEQ trigger outs and CV inputs?  I’m curious if there’s much latency.  I’m also curious how well the CV recording works (on the Bitbox).  Could I record CV and then NERDSEQ sequence the CV recording on Bitbox, to create some smooth knob turns to automate/modulate my other modular units?  

I would love to hear a bit about your setups and your overall experience, satisfaction, peeves and so on!  Maybe it’ll be straightforward but would love to hit the deck running.

Thanks!

P.S.
I’m also curious about using a Faderfox with my Expert Sleepers ES-9, to have some faders for it’s internal mixer in standalone mode.  Curious if I could use the NERDSEQ MIDI I/O to connect to my ES-9.  Will post this on the ES-9 Muffwiggler thread as well, but just in case anyone here understands this, doesn’t hurt to ask...  I’ve read that I can use the XOXO MIDIXO (only 2 HP) as a MIDI TRS breakout but want to see if the NERDSEQ MIDI I/O could also serve the same purpose (it will be the last 2 HP in my rack and I need another mult).
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#2
Hi, I do this with triggers and CV. Only just started doing it but no issues so far.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CJdY-kVBbTU/..._copy_link
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#3
There will be also a 2HP midi expander for the NerdSEQ.
The PCB’s will arrive in the coming week and I’m mainly waiting for the cables.
About TRS, thats another story. I designed the expander to support TRS-A which is the midi standard.
I will also deliver cables with it for regular Din Midi. But a 1:1 cable should work as the bitbox supports TRS-A as well.
That’s about midi. Not sure about anything the bitbox does with midi vs. CV. The latencies for both should be no issue as you are dealing with hardware.
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(01-03-2021, 09:36 AM)Kubase Wrote: Hi, I do this with triggers and CV.  Only just started doing it but no issues so far.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CJdY-kVBbTU/..._copy_link

Nice, I clicked on the link and realized I had already liked your video on IG a few days back!  Looking forward to diving in myself, once my Bitbox rolls in...

(01-03-2021, 10:03 AM)XORadmin Wrote: There will be also a 2HP midi expander for the NerdSEQ.
The PCB’s will arrive in the coming week and I’m mainly waiting for the cables.
About TRS, thats another story. I designed the expander to support TRS-A which is the midi standard.
I will also deliver cables with it for regular Din Midi. But a 1:1 cable should work as the bitbox supports TRS-A as well.
That’s about midi. Not sure about anything the bitbox does with midi vs. CV. The latencies for both should be no issue as you are dealing with hardware.

Thanks, seems a DIN to TRS-A would work from my MIDI I/O (coming in later this week from Perfect Circuit!) to the Bitbox.  Once the 2 HP unit is out in the wild, might be a better choice for me, as it would save me some HP, I guess.  I also need MIDI in to use my Keystep to play in my sequences...

I terms of the MIDI to my Expert Sleepers Es-9, it seems the XOXO MIDIXO has a 4 pin cable that attaches to Expert Sleepers modules to allow MIDI input from something like the Faderfox UC4 (and hence control of the Es-9 internal mixer, EQ per channel and so on, in the upcoming firmware):

https://www.xoxomodular.com/midixo.html

Is there any way to do this with the NERDSEQ MIDI I/O or the upcoming 2HP MIDI unit?  I would imagine not, but I’m a bit hazy on how this all works.

Thanks!
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(01-03-2021, 10:03 AM)XORadmin Wrote: There will be also a 2HP midi expander for the NerdSEQ.
The PCB’s will arrive in the coming week and I’m mainly waiting for the cables.
About TRS, thats another story. I designed the expander to support TRS-A which is the midi standard.
I will also deliver cables with it for regular Din Midi. But a 1:1 cable should work as the bitbox supports TRS-A as well.
That’s about midi. Not sure about anything the bitbox does with midi vs. CV. The latencies for both should be no issue as you are dealing with hardware.

will this 2hp midi expander happen to have I2C on it as well???
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(01-03-2021, 09:22 PM)sak-rwsd Wrote:
(01-03-2021, 09:36 AM)Kubase Wrote: Hi, I do this with triggers and CV.  Only just started doing it but no issues so far.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CJdY-kVBbTU/..._copy_link

Nice, I clicked on the link and realized I had already liked your video on IG a few days back!  Looking forward to diving in myself, once my Bitbox rolls in...

(01-03-2021, 10:03 AM)XORadmin Wrote: There will be also a 2HP midi expander for the NerdSEQ.
The PCB’s will arrive in the coming week and I’m mainly waiting for the cables.
About TRS, thats another story. I designed the expander to support TRS-A which is the midi standard.
I will also deliver cables with it for regular Din Midi. But a 1:1 cable should work as the bitbox supports TRS-A as well.
That’s about midi. Not sure about anything the bitbox does with midi vs. CV. The latencies for both should be no issue as you are dealing with hardware.

Thanks, seems a DIN to TRS-A would work from my MIDI I/O (coming in later this week from Perfect Circuit!) to the Bitbox.  Once the 2 HP unit is out in the wild, might be a better choice for me, as it would save me some HP, I guess.  I also need MIDI in to use my Keystep to play in my sequences...

I terms of the MIDI to my Expert Sleepers Es-9, it seems the XOXO MIDIXO has a 4 pin cable that attaches to Expert Sleepers modules to allow MIDI input from something like the Faderfox UC4 (and hence control of the Es-9 internal mixer, EQ per channel and so on, in the upcoming firmware):

https://www.xoxomodular.com/midixo.html

Is there any way to do this with the NERDSEQ MIDI I/O or the upcoming 2HP MIDI unit?  I would imagine not, but I’m a bit hazy on how this all works.

Thanks!

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(01-04-2021, 04:45 AM)broecker Wrote:
(01-03-2021, 10:03 AM)XORadmin Wrote: There will be also a 2HP midi expander for the NerdSEQ.
The PCB’s will arrive in the coming week and I’m mainly waiting for the cables.
About TRS, thats another story. I designed the expander to support TRS-A which is the midi standard.
I will also deliver cables with it for regular Din Midi. But a 1:1 cable should work as the bitbox supports TRS-A as well.
That’s about midi. Not sure about anything the bitbox does with midi vs. CV. The latencies for both should be no issue as you are dealing with hardware.

will this 2hp midi expander happen to have I2C on it as well???

I2C is a different thing and would need a different kind of adapter. I might be able though to put that also into 2HP. It gets a bit deeper then indeed. A combined one would be too much hardware I guess.
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(01-04-2021, 07:03 AM)XORadmin Wrote:
(01-04-2021, 04:45 AM)broecker Wrote:
(01-03-2021, 10:03 AM)XORadmin Wrote: There will be also a 2HP midi expander for the NerdSEQ.
The PCB’s will arrive in the coming week and I’m mainly waiting for the cables.
About TRS, thats another story. I designed the expander to support TRS-A which is the midi standard.
I will also deliver cables with it for regular Din Midi. But a 1:1 cable should work as the bitbox supports TRS-A as well.
That’s about midi. Not sure about anything the bitbox does with midi vs. CV. The latencies for both should be no issue as you are dealing with hardware.

will this 2hp midi expander happen to have I2C on it as well???

I2C is a different thing and would need a different kind of adapter. I might be able though to put that also into 2HP. It gets a bit deeper then indeed. A combined one would be too much hardware I guess.

Thank you. I didn't figure it would fit, but I had to ask...
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#9
Hey Guys,

I finally received my BITBOX MK2 (as well as the NERDSEQ MIDI IO). I've had no trouble sequencing BITBOX one hit samples via it's 16 trigger inputs. I am having trouble with sequencing the slicer mode...

I've loaded some of my Jungle Warfare breakbeats in and have them sliced up, nice and easy. I just can't get them to play via external CV. I've routed (NERDSEQ) CV1 out into (BITBOX) Ext 1 input, with the the slice set to be controlled via Ext 1 in Bitbox (using 1 v/oct on). When I send Notes via CV 1 out from my NERDSEQ, nothing happens. I'm fine with sequencing the rest of my rack with the NERDSEQ.

Kubase, or any others, any feedback on the settings to get this to work? I still haven't tried the MIDI output on the NERDSEQ, to control Bitbox via MIDI (though I need to get a TRS-A.MIDI cable, as Bitbox only includes a TRS-B one). I wonder how that will compare to CV control?

Thanks much!

RWSD
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#10
I assume you need also to connect a gate so the slices are playing.
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