Log/Exponential curve for envelopes

[thomaskobrick]

Is there a way (or has this already been requested), to shape the envelopes similar to many envelope generators by Intellijel, Xaoc and Mutable, to where you can shape the attack and release from logarithmic to linear to exponential?  This would be super helpful, and it's the one thing I miss in the NerdSeq envelopes that I get with dedicated generators.  I pretty much use exponential curves in every patch.

The only other thing is whether we can scale the overall envelope scale, rather than just setting the attack voltage, so that you can quiet the envelope.  Looks like I can accomplish this with Automators?  Forgive me, I'm still just learning.  This might be an obvious question.  Is this the preferred method?  

Lastly, OMG, this thing is mind-blowingly feature-rich and makes music happen so quickly.  Just wanted to say thank you for putting this into the world.  I am in awe.

[XORadmin]

Hey Thomas,
yes this has been requested several times. At the current state I don't know if I will ever implement it. Logarithmic/Exponential curves need more processing power and for now I want to keep things smoothly running. Dedicated envelope generators do only this one job while the NerdSEQ got to do like 100 other things at the same time ( like up to 8 envelopes. up to 8 LFO, FM synth, sample, sequencing, screen drawing etc.....) so I got to take good care that one new cpu intensive function doesn't make anything else not usable/slow. And I need also a bit of room for some future stuff that is still in the pipeline.
I might give it a go at some point, but not in the very near future.

As for the envelope scaling, you could do this through the automators, but keep in mind that the output samplerate of the automators is much lower than from the envelopes themselve. So the result might not be satisfying (or maybe it is all right, give it a try for sure).

Thank you!
Cheers
Thomas

[mgd]

The only other thing is whether we can scale the overall envelope scale, rather than just setting the attack voltage, so that you can quiet the envelope.  Looks like I can accomplish this with Automators?  Forgive me, I'm still just learning.  This might be an obvious question.  Is this the preferred method? 

Depends on what you wish to do here. You have 8 Envelopes already, therefor you could just preprogram 8 different "envelope scales" and select them via e.g. ^11, ^21, ^31, ... etc.
You could even go further by using FX to modify all parameters of the envelopes from inside your patterns. So in theory you could just reprogram your envelopes in every pattern.

Not sure this would give you enough options and variability but might be worth a try.

Kind regards,
Michael

[XORadmin]

The only other thing is whether we can scale the overall envelope scale, rather than just setting the attack voltage, so that you can quiet the envelope.  Looks like I can accomplish this with Automators?  Forgive me, I'm still just learning.  This might be an obvious question.  Is this the preferred method? 

Depends on what you wish to do here. You have 8 Envelopes already, therefor you could just preprogram 8 different "envelope scales" and select them via e.g. ^11, ^21, ^31, ... etc.
You could even go further by using FX to modify all parameters of the envelopes from inside your patterns. So in theory you could just reprogram your envelopes in every pattern.

Not sure this would give you enough options and variability but might be worth a try.

Kind regards,
Michael

Ah yes, didn't think about that one. Might be another possibility to get the wanted result.

[thomaskobrick]

Hey Thomas,
yes this has been requested several times...

Thank you for the thoughtful response.  Makes total sense.  And also makes sense that NerdSeq does not try and replace every other module out there, which is also good for creativity (constraints and all).  To be honest, the fact that it does envelopes at all is a complete gift.  I am barely scratching the surface of what this can do, but finding it completely does "that modular thing" of taking your ideas and creating something new you did not expect, which results in something better than your original idea.  I am very pleased with it and am enjoying learning the ins and out.

And thanks for confirming the combo with Automators for scaling.  The lower sample rate might be a cool feature to explore!

Cheers!

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The only other thing is whether we can scale the overall envelope scale, rather than just setting the attack voltage, so that you can quiet the envelope.  Looks like I can accomplish this with Automators?  Forgive me, I'm still just learning.  This might be an obvious question.  Is this the preferred method? 

Depends on what you wish to do here. You have 8 Envelopes already, therefor you could just preprogram 8 different "envelope scales" and select them via e.g. ^11, ^21, ^31, ... etc.
You could even go further by using FX to modify all parameters of the envelopes from inside your patterns. So in theory you could just reprogram your envelopes in every pattern.

Not sure this would give you enough options and variability but might be worth a try.

Kind regards,
Michael

Ah yes, didn't think about that one. Might be another possibility to get the wanted result.

Thank for these ideas - I will try them out!  Really I'm trying to get to grips with where my limitations are, so this is very helpful.  The FX system is completely blowing my mind at the moment, so it will take a little while to sort through the possibilities.

Cheers!