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Sega controllers?
#61
(02-02-2021, 04:52 AM)Bleep bleep Wrote: Just to report that the 8bit-do receiver add quite a lot of noise to the two audio outputs of the NerdSeq.

Im wondering if this is specific to my controller (sn30pro+) or does everybody have this problem? 

It happens only when the controller is paired with the receiver, else it is fine, even with receiver pluged in with no controller connected.  

Not terrible but still can be quite anoying and definitly a big noticeable difference with or without controller.

I got the bluetooth version and didn't realize this so far. I will check it tomorrow carefully. What I did realize is that the 8bit-do receiver is acting quite funny with the voltages.
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#62
I was doing some tests right now and got the following basic issues with 2 types of controllers:

Original Sega controllers are powered with 5 Volt and provide the controlling with 5 volt levels. All fine, working without any problem for years.

8Bit DO Wireless receiver: Does seem to work well properly when interfaced slower than the original speed. With original speed there seem to be occational 'ghost'- button presses. Also it does funny things with the voltages. While all is on a 5 volt level, it pulls the voltage of the select line down to 2 Volt (it is not suppose to touch it at all since it is a output). Controller lines are replied with 3,3 Volt (which should be 5 volt as well). I got to see how stable it would be in long term running on slower speed.

Retrobit controllers: Seem to work fine in the first place, but some cases reported that it fried suddenly. I just had exactly same issue and ended up in a dead controller. Doing some research and the sudden death of these controllers seem to be a more common issue. (check amazon reviews and more, not related to the nerdSEQ at all but with regular use with a sega console. I can't make any statements about how often this happens, but it does happen)
So I do not recommend the retrobit controllers.
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#63
(02-11-2021, 11:44 AM)XORadmin Wrote: I was doing some tests right now and got the following basic issues with 2 types of controllers:

Original Sega controllers are powered with 5 Volt and provide the controlling with 5 volt levels. All fine, working without any problem for years.

8Bit DO Wireless receiver: Does seem to work well properly when interfaced slower than the original speed. With original speed there seem to be occational 'ghost'- button presses. Also it does funny things with the voltages. While all is on a 5 volt level, it pulls the voltage of the select line down to 2 Volt (it is not suppose to touch it at all since it is a output). Controller lines are replied with 3,3 Volt (which should be 5 volt as well). I got to see how stable it would be in long term running on slower speed.

Retrobit controllers: Seem to work fine in the first place, but some cases reported that it fried suddenly. I just had exactly same issue and ended up in a dead controller. Doing some research and the sudden death of these controllers seem to be a more common issue. (check amazon reviews and more, not related to the nerdSEQ at all but with regular use with a sega console. I can't make any statements about how often this happens, but it does happen)
So I do not recommend the retrobit controllers.

Yes, I am noticing the ghosting as well.  At first I thought it was the new firmware, but I probably didn't use the controller enough prior to the firmware to notice, so correlation not causation there.  Is there anything that can be done on the nerdSEQ side? I don't know what it means to interface slower than the original speed, if that can be a choice for those of us using this wireless receiver.  As much as I love the click of the original buttons, it's great for my ergonomics to have this wireless setup.
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#64
(02-11-2021, 06:29 PM)sak-rwsd Wrote:
(02-11-2021, 11:44 AM)XORadmin Wrote: I was doing some tests right now and got the following basic issues with 2 types of controllers:

Original Sega controllers are powered with 5 Volt and provide the controlling with 5 volt levels. All fine, working without any problem for years.

8Bit DO Wireless receiver: Does seem to work well properly when interfaced slower than the original speed. With original speed there seem to be occational 'ghost'- button presses. Also it does funny things with the voltages. While all is on a 5 volt level, it pulls the voltage of the select line down to 2 Volt (it is not suppose to touch it at all since it is a output). Controller lines are replied with 3,3 Volt (which should be 5 volt as well). I got to see how stable it would be in long term running on slower speed.

Retrobit controllers: Seem to work fine in the first place, but some cases reported that it fried suddenly. I just had exactly same issue and ended up in a dead controller. Doing some research and the sudden death of these controllers seem to be a more common issue. (check amazon reviews and more, not related to the nerdSEQ at all but with regular use with a sega console. I can't make any statements about how often this happens, but it does happen)
So I do not recommend the retrobit controllers.

Yes, I am noticing the ghosting as well.  At first I thought it was the new firmware, but I probably didn't use the controller enough prior to the firmware to notice, so correlation not causation there.  Is there anything that can be done on the nerdSEQ side? I don't know what it means to interface slower than the original speed, if that can be a choice for those of us using this wireless receiver.  As much as I love the click of the original buttons, it's great for my ergonomics to have this wireless setup.

I think the ghosting is related to the new firmware. I use there the original speeds and I also found out about that today after your message.
Before I used slower speeds which was fine for the original sega gamepads but the retrobit ones didn't work well with it. I don't remember having ghosting with the 8Bit DO then.

For sure I can define the speed depending on which gamepad is 'selected'. I'm gonna try it out with the 8Bit DO sometime this weekend.
That doesn't take away that it really pulls on the voltages which is not a good thing I think. I will analyse that as well.
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#65
I also just noticed the ghost presses with the new firmware and 8-bit do receiver, it didnt happened to me before.

For the noise on wave channel, i still have the issue. A high pitched noise come there when pairing the controller.
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#66
Yay! can confirm that the 8Bitdo Arcade Stick works with the Retro bluetooth receiver - a joy to use - The small blue button reconnects the joystick if it goes to sleep from not being used.


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#67
I am looking to source a mint sega controller, the 8bit id wireless so avoiding that and the retro-bit has serious quality issues.
Anyone know a place online that has decent a reputable real sega controllers?
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#68
If anybody's interested, there's a guy on ebay selling what appears to be new old stock Sega 1653 6-button controllers. I got one, and it seems to work perfectly with NerdSeq.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Original-Se...3942711487
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#69
(04-12-2021, 10:35 PM)banjodan Wrote: If anybody's interested, there's a guy on ebay selling what appears to be new old stock Sega 1653 6-button controllers. I got one, and it seems to work perfectly with NerdSeq.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Original-Se...3942711487

I some how may have bought one of those a few days ago.
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#70
Anyone have any issues with a Sega Controller? I have a relatively mint Sega 6 button with start and mode + the Normal/Turbo/Slow Switch. Anyone have issues?
As Soon as I plug it in it just goes up constantly. I just updated to the RC firmware that didn't fix it was on 1.21A before.

I took the controller apart it looks pristine no weird gunk, its a simple 2 single layer PCB so not where what could be wrong with it.
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