Mapping Discussion

[zeitkunst]

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* First, I set the note value in the pattern to be something like, C-4. I then put a C-5 on a different step in the pattern. No matter what octave I put for the note, the voltage remains between 0 and 1V. And, it seems as if the voltage output is not being output correctly between 0 and 1V, as changes between various half steps are not audible, and there is no voltage change on my multimeter. I haven't had a chance to map out the discrepancies exactly (for example, I don't hear or see any difference between C-4 and C#-4), but the main issue is: voltage remains between 0 and 1V, no matter the octave, and all of the voltage steps are not being outputted. I will try and map things out in the coming days.

Thanks so much for your help on this!

Offset switch to the right? No other modulators on the CV signal running? Transpose on in any way? CV In to out enabled somehow...outputs calibrated well? Maybe add your project where this happens so I can check whats going on.

* The second issue is that the voltage output seems to be delayed by some amount compared to my incoming trigger. Of course this is to be expected, given that a calculation is occurring. But the delay is enough to cause the voltage output (for my oscillator) to be offset from the incoming trigger enough to cause an audible slur to be heard. Is there a way to know the delay between the incoming trigger on, in my case, CV1, and the voltage output in the sequencer? Or, is it better to just use the trigger output from the sequencer itself to trigger downstream modules?

There can be a delay of max 1 ms until the execution of the mapping row. And then it depends on the next sequencer tick of the running sequencer until it is being executed from the pattern. The lower the BPM the higher the chance of a little delay.
The fact that it executes with the next internal sequencer tick can't be avoided as it wouldn't act together with the start/stop/launch part.
I would suggest to not use the incoming trigger as the one that works with the CV's but to generate the triggers from the sequence as that would match again.

Okay, thanks for the quick reply! Attached here is the project file...it's as simple as can be. Track one has mappings setup. Track two doesn't. Track one only outputs between 0 and 1V, track two outputs properly. Hopefully I'm not missing something simple!

Thanks for the suggestion about the triggers, I just tried that and indeed it works much better.

[XORadmin]

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* First, I set the note value in the pattern to be something like, C-4. I then put a C-5 on a different step in the pattern. No matter what octave I put for the note, the voltage remains between 0 and 1V. And, it seems as if the voltage output is not being output correctly between 0 and 1V, as changes between various half steps are not audible, and there is no voltage change on my multimeter. I haven't had a chance to map out the discrepancies exactly (for example, I don't hear or see any difference between C-4 and C#-4), but the main issue is: voltage remains between 0 and 1V, no matter the octave, and all of the voltage steps are not being outputted. I will try and map things out in the coming days.

Thanks so much for your help on this!

Offset switch to the right? No other modulators on the CV signal running? Transpose on in any way? CV In to out enabled somehow...outputs calibrated well? Maybe add your project where this happens so I can check whats going on.

* The second issue is that the voltage output seems to be delayed by some amount compared to my incoming trigger. Of course this is to be expected, given that a calculation is occurring. But the delay is enough to cause the voltage output (for my oscillator) to be offset from the incoming trigger enough to cause an audible slur to be heard. Is there a way to know the delay between the incoming trigger on, in my case, CV1, and the voltage output in the sequencer? Or, is it better to just use the trigger output from the sequencer itself to trigger downstream modules?

There can be a delay of max 1 ms until the execution of the mapping row. And then it depends on the next sequencer tick of the running sequencer until it is being executed from the pattern. The lower the BPM the higher the chance of a little delay.
The fact that it executes with the next internal sequencer tick can't be avoided as it wouldn't act together with the start/stop/launch part.
I would suggest to not use the incoming trigger as the one that works with the CV's but to generate the triggers from the sequence as that would match again.

Okay, thanks for the quick reply! Attached here is the project file...it's as simple as can be. Track one has mappings setup. Track two doesn't. Track one only outputs between 0 and 1V, track two outputs properly. Hopefully I'm not missing something simple!

Thanks for the suggestion about the triggers, I just tried that and indeed it works much better.

Your Track Transpose is -60

[zeitkunst]

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* First, I set the note value in the pattern to be something like, C-4. I then put a C-5 on a different step in the pattern. No matter what octave I put for the note, the voltage remains between 0 and 1V. And, it seems as if the voltage output is not being output correctly between 0 and 1V, as changes between various half steps are not audible, and there is no voltage change on my multimeter. I haven't had a chance to map out the discrepancies exactly (for example, I don't hear or see any difference between C-4 and C#-4), but the main issue is: voltage remains between 0 and 1V, no matter the octave, and all of the voltage steps are not being outputted. I will try and map things out in the coming days.

Thanks so much for your help on this!

Offset switch to the right? No other modulators on the CV signal running? Transpose on in any way? CV In to out enabled somehow...outputs calibrated well? Maybe add your project where this happens so I can check whats going on.

* The second issue is that the voltage output seems to be delayed by some amount compared to my incoming trigger. Of course this is to be expected, given that a calculation is occurring. But the delay is enough to cause the voltage output (for my oscillator) to be offset from the incoming trigger enough to cause an audible slur to be heard. Is there a way to know the delay between the incoming trigger on, in my case, CV1, and the voltage output in the sequencer? Or, is it better to just use the trigger output from the sequencer itself to trigger downstream modules?

There can be a delay of max 1 ms until the execution of the mapping row. And then it depends on the next sequencer tick of the running sequencer until it is being executed from the pattern. The lower the BPM the higher the chance of a little delay.
The fact that it executes with the next internal sequencer tick can't be avoided as it wouldn't act together with the start/stop/launch part.
I would suggest to not use the incoming trigger as the one that works with the CV's but to generate the triggers from the sequence as that would match again.

Okay, thanks for the quick reply! Attached here is the project file...it's as simple as can be. Track one has mappings setup. Track two doesn't. Track one only outputs between 0 and 1V, track two outputs properly. Hopefully I'm not missing something simple!

Thanks for the suggestion about the triggers, I just tried that and indeed it works much better.

Your Track Transpose is -60

Ohhh...that's very strange because I didn't set that at all. It must be happening when I'm setting up the mapping as I cycle through the TRK options then? The triggers are coming in as I'm setting it up, as I had the pattern playing in order to test things. This is the only way that I can explain how the transpose had changed without me explicitly changing it. Maybe something to mention in the manual for the mapping function, that having voltages coming in while setting parameters might change those parameters as you cycle through them?

I do have one question about this, where do I manually set the track transpose in this new version? In the old manual it was in the Nerd menu, but I'm not sure where it is now? Unless again I'm missing something obvious.

Thanks for finding this for me.

[XORadmin]

Ohhh...that's very strange because I didn't set that at all. It must be happening when I'm setting up the mapping as I cycle through the TRK options then? The triggers are coming in as I'm setting it up, as I had the pattern playing in order to test things. This is the only way that I can explain how the transpose had changed without me explicitly changing it. Maybe something to mention in the manual for the mapping function, that having voltages coming in while setting parameters might change those parameters as you cycle through them?

I do have one question about this, where do I manually set the track transpose in this new version? In the old manual it was in the Nerd menu, but I'm not sure where it is now? Unless again I'm missing something obvious.

Thanks for finding this for me.

Pretty sure that happened and it is explained in the manual. (OK Button, SHIFT+OK Navigation in the mappings)

Transpose is at the old place, nerd menu sequencer screen.

[shledge]

I'm a bit stumped - how do I set up mapping to trigger samples 1-4 via notes on seperate MIDI channels?

I tried the following for example, but it doesn't work:

Midi - Channel 9 - Gate > Audio - Sample 2 - Start

Do I drop the gate part? Or do I simply trigger the sample gate instead?

[XORadmin]

I'm a bit stumped - how do I set up mapping to trigger samples 1-4 via notes on seperate MIDI channels?

I tried the following for example, but it doesn't work:

Midi - Channel 9 - Gate > Audio - Sample 2 - Start

Do I drop the gate part? Or do I simply trigger the sample gate instead?

Did you select the sample number (for slot 2), the pitch/note and the volume before?

[shledge]

In general or in mapping?

I've the samples loaded beforehand.

[XORadmin]

In general or in mapping?

I've the samples loaded beforehand.

Doesn’t matter how, via mapping, playing a sample once (which makes it the last used one. Loading samples is good but did you select the things to be used on slot 2? It doesn’t know which sample you want to trigger on which pitch and volume. It should work if you set that up once.

[shledge]

I've set them up in track 7/8 for the respective 4 slots, yes

[shledge]

Still can't get it to work - I did the following

- loaded sample into sample slot 00
- designated sample slot 00 to slot 1 of track 7
- used variables to set pitch and volume
- MIDI channel 9 note to slot 1 note
- MIDI channel 9 gate to slot 1 gate

I can get the waveforms working this way oddly enough, but not the loaded sample.